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Post by mark on Nov 12, 2014 18:34:46 GMT
Its been a long day, but it looks like there might be an anomaly.
Item 5.5.a Gives us a maximum area of 25SQM per head
Item 5.5.b Tells us that they must not be greater than 5.5m apart.
Imagine a big room say 4.5m by 11m with two heads in it
So each head has a floor area of 4.5 * 5.5m = 24.75SQM so it complies with a)
But, we cant tell the head to spray shorter (4.5m) in one direction but longer in the other (5.5m)
At this point. Is the area of operation the actual floor area, or is it longest distance * itself ?
If we work on the principle of longest distance by longest distance ie 5.5m * 5.5m we exceed our max area of operation 30.25SQM
For a Cat 1 this gives ~62l/min Cat 2 ~85l/min
This is per head
In a long corridor of a Cat 2 Building using "normal heads" at 4.9m spacing = 4.9*4.9 = 24SQM @ 2.8l/sqm = ~67l/min.
A two head knock becomes 134l/min.
In reality it looks like any multi head knock will always be "low flows" in any Cat 2 or 3 building
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Post by Keith Rhodes on Nov 17, 2014 15:46:44 GMT
With regard to distribution of the density it has to be recognized that complete even distribution is not going to be met.
Taking the commercial rules of a 4 x 3 max spacing grid some areas will get marginally more, others less but the heads are designed to deliver in theory at least the density over each metre.
Spacing does however need to be carefully considered to try to achieve an even distribution overall. This argument is further confused by wall wetting patterns and it can be said that with "over pressure" maybe too much wall wetting is achieved. counterbalance that argument with over delivery of density overall and a picture of some sort of pragmatic balance can be drawn.
So if each head is covering an area 5.5 long x 4.5 wide (nominally) you are just inside the 25 M2 rule per head. To meet the density you will need 100.98 LPM @2.04 mm/M2.
Using say VK457 heads you will need 64.4 LPM per head @0.83 bar to meet cat 1 or cat 1 a)a)this being 128.8 LPM and a little bit more for the more favorable head. That's quite a high demand and where you might consider using 6 x low flow heads such as VK488 where at a max spacing of 3 .7 x 3.7 you would need 30.3 LPM @0.49 bar. That's just 60.6 LPM and a little bit more again. The clear trade off is number of heads over water stored volume/ flow and pressure available off town mains.
there could be a counter argument that with low flow heads the area of operation is reduced from what perhaps was envisaged E.G. some 50 M2 capability for a 2 head operation might become only 27.38 M2 within a larger room
If you go to cat 2 on this room size you will need 138.6 LPM to meet the 2.8 mm density this can only be achieved by using 4 heads as to the 5.5 spacing VK457 heads only give 64.4 LPM- however- you could use manufacturers data and go to 6.1 spacing with 75.7 LPM @1,15 bar with 2 heads as this would give you the density- at some significant hydraulic cost though.
For a corridor there's no reason why you cannot use 5.5 max spacing's as the reduced widths will give you the density overall - again the density is going to be much higher on the wall sides near each head -counter argument might be the wall wetting bounces off the nearer walls onto the furthest coverage of that head. in all probability though a 4.9 spacing that keeps pressure down is more likely to be employed- or low flow heads as mark noted. 30 LPM over 3.7 metres is more economical on water that 49 LPM over 4.9 metres by some 20% - but are the extra heads worth it?
Bear in mind to always to use the "next area up" to cover the actual area using manufacturers proven data sheet so you know at 2.04 that under max area with responsible spacing = compliance. For 2.8 mm / 4 mm get your thinking caps on!
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Post by mark on Nov 17, 2014 22:44:19 GMT
Keith
Yes its the "next area up" that will make things interesting in these bigger rooms when looking at Cat 2 & 3
Under the old BS we would have looked at 2No heads @ 5.5m = 64.4l/min X2 128.8l/min. Chances are that there would be a 4 head knock elsewhere demanding more than this.
Under the new rules; As you say we could go 4No 5.5m heads to give us the density with only two or all four calculated so we could have a worse case than before.
Using a 488 type head to get the density if fine on Cat 1 but for the Cat 2 by jumping up to the next area up we would need the 6No low flows but now operating at 41.6 LPM / 0.92bar each.
Did you say thinking cap or night cap?
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